kmljIq nIloN bfl jgq ivwc iewk invyklI pCfx rwKdf hY.ipCly do dhfikaF qoN Auh ies Kyqr ivwc srgrm hY.ies smyN dOrfn Ausny axigxq pRogRfm pyÈ kIqy.tYlIvIXn rfhIN Auh bwicaF dy idlF qy rfj krdf irhf.sO jf bwbUaf mfxo ibwlI afeI af'.Ausdf gIq iewk aKfx vFgUM lokF dy mUMh cV igaf.bwcy Aus nUM mfxo ibwlI aMkl afKky mfx idMdy.Auh bfl-jgq ivwc iewk nfiek vFgUM pRvfn ciVHaf.mYnUM ies klfkfr nUM bhuq nyVy hoky imlx df mOkf imldf irhf hY.ies mulfkfq rfhIN mYN kmljIq nIloN nUM afpxy pfTkF nfl imlvfAux dI KuÈI vI lY irhf hF.( myjr mFgt)
myjr mFgt :- kmljIq nIloN jI mYnUM ies gwl dI bhuq KuÈI hY ik awj kwl qusIN sfzy Èihr torFto afey hoey hoN.asIN quhfnUM jI afieaF afKdy hoey quhfzI klf sbMDI gwl bfq krnI hY.ipCly lMby smyN qusIN bfl-Kyqr nfl juVy hoey hoN.qusIN bhuq sfrf bfl-sfihq ricaf aqy bhuq sohxy aMdfË ivwc gfieaf vI.ijs krky quhfnUM byhwd pRiswDI imlI.ies klf nUM ibKyrn leI qusIN dyÈF ibdyÈF dy cwkr lfey.awj kwl qusI kYnyzf ivwc hoN quhfzI ies PyrI df kI mMqv hY?
kmljIq nIloN :- myjr myry eyQy afAux df mksd vI bfl klf vl lokF df iDan dvfAuxf hY.mYN knyzf ivwc hux vwKo vwKrIaF sMsQfvF dy swdy qy pMjvIN vfrI afieaf hoieaf hF.awj kwl bwicaF dy pRogRfm sbMDI vrkÈfp aqy rIhrslF cwl rhIaF hn.AumId hY ik ies vfrI vI asI afpxy mksd ivwc sPl ho jFvFgy.asIN jo bwicaF nfl gIq iqafr krdy hF Aus nfl AunHF nUM afpxy ivrsy bfry vI jfxkfrI imldI hY qy AunHF nUM klf pRdrÈnI df vI mOkf imldf hY.ipClI vfr dI qrHF aYqkI bwicaF aqy mfipaF ny byhwd idlcspI leI hY.Auh bhuq imhnq nfl kMm kr rhy hn ijs dI mYnUM bhuq KuÈI hY.
? kmljIq jI ijvyN pMjfb jF Bfrq ivwc bwicaF leI bhuq sfry pRogRfm pyÈ huMdy hn,Kfs krky ryzIAu tI vI qy,bwicaF dy rsfly inwkldy hn,AunHF bfry sfihq ricaf jFdf hY.Ausy pRkfr qusIN eyQy af ky vyiKaf hoAU ik vI bhuq hoxhfr bwcy hn,AunHF kol shUlqF vI hn pr AunHF nUM afpxI klf nUM afpxI kMimAUntI awgy pyÈ krn dy mOky nhIN muheIaf kIqy jFdy.ijs krky bwcy afpxy swiBafcfr qoN qF tuwtdy hI hn Auh afpxI kimAUntI jF afpxy mF bfp aqy sbMDIaF qoN dUr htdy cly jFdy hn.iewk do pRogRfmF ny bwicaF dI gwl krnI ÈurU kIqI hY jo bVI vDIaf gwl hY.jy kr bfkI dy ryzIAu tI vI jF aKbfr vI eyDr iDafn dyx qF kI eyQy vI AuQy vrgf mhOl nhIN pYdf kIqf jf skdf?
--- hF ikAuN nhIN kIqf jf skdf hY.jy qusIN afpxy buZfpy nUM nhIN rolxf cfhuMdy.jy qusIN cfhuMdy hoN ik ienHF mulkF ivwc aglI pIVHI quhfzy nfl juVI rhy qF quhfnUM vwizaf qoN vI iËafdf bwicaF leI krnf pvygf.nhIN qF aglI pIVHI quhfzy hwQoN inwkl jfvygI.jdoN mY isMGfpur pRogRfm dyx igaf sI AuQy vI mYN gIq gfieaf sI:-
"krn kmfeIaF afey dUr myry imwqro Koa nF jfieAu inwky inwky lfl" ieh pIVI pfVf quhfnUM GtfAux leI kMm krnf hI pYxf hY.jy nF kIqf qF quhfzIaF jybF ivwc zflr qF jrUr hoxgy pr aOlfd quhfzy hwQoN inwkl jfvygI.quhfnUM dohF cIjF ivwc squMln rwKxf jrUrI hY.kmfeIaF vI kro qy bwcy vI nF guafAu.qF hI quhfzI pCfx kfiem rih skygI.jdoN ikqy bwicaF bfry gwl hovy qF sfnUM sfry Byd Bfv imtf ky iewk hoky kMm krnf cfhIdf hY.
? kmljIq jI awj bwicaF dy Kyqr ivwc quhfzf bhuq nFAu hY.awj hor vI bhuq sfry lok ies pfsy iDafn dy rhy hn pr jdoN qusIN ies Kyqr ivwc afey sI qF ieh Kyqr iblkuwl suMnf ipaf sI blik lok quhfzf mËfk AuzfAuNdy sn ik kmljIq vwzf hY bwicaF vfly gIq gf ky ieh kI kr lvygf.pr qusIN afpxI klf df lohf mnvfieaf.ies Kyqr ivwc sQfpq hox leI quhfnU hor vI bhuq sfrIaF muÈklF df sfhmxf krnf ipaf hoAU.Auhdy bfry kuwJ dwsoNgy?
--- myry bfpU jI kulvMq nIloN jI ny jo Gr ivwc sfihqk mhOl pYdf kIqf sI Aus nfl myrI sFJ sfihq nfl peI hoeI sI.afly duafly nfl joVn qoN ielfvf Auh mYnUM gIq ilK ky gfAux leI idMdy qy keI QF myry qoN guafAuNdy.ies qrHF mYnUM cytk ijhI lwgdI geI.iesy qrHF Coty huMdy nUM myrI mF ny kihxf ik dws qyry bfpU jI ikvyN gwlF krdy huMdy hn,qyrI byby jI jF lFGy vflI byby dI rIs lfky dws.mYN ieh rIsF lfAuNdf qy Èfied iesy coN myrf ÈONk jnimaf hY.jo bfad ivwc mono-aYkitMgF df rUp Dfrn lwigaf.mYN keI qrF dIaF afvfËF kwZx df aiBafs krdf.ies mhOl aqy bfpU jI dI pRyrxf krky mYN ies pfsy qur ipaf.jdoN mYN bwicaF vflf pihlf gIq iliKaf.qF mhOl ies qrF bixaf ik myry vwzy vIry do bwcIaF sn jo ik qIjy bwcy vjoN afpxy vIr nUM AuzIk rhIaF sn jdoN qIjI Pyr bwcI af geI qF Auh Audfs ho geIaF.AunHF dy ichiraF nUM pVH ky bwcy dI afvfË ivwc mYN pihlf gIq ilK ky gfieaf:-
iewko mMg cfavF vy rwbf vIrf dy dy
ies gIq ny myrI bdlI hoeI afvfË ny bhuq asr kIqf.mYnUM bhuq pRMsÈf qy hOslf-avjfeI imlI.nvI jnmIN bwcI df nFAu bwbU rwiKaf igaf.Aus nfl lzfey gey lfzF ivwcoN Pyr ieh gIq jnimaf:-
sON jf bwbUaf mfxo ibwlI afeI af
ijs nUM byhwd pRiswDI imlI.ies qrHF mYN bwicaF dy Kyqr nfl juV igaf.bwica dI ies ivwc aYnI idlcspI dyK ky mYnUM mihsUs hoieaf ik bwcy bhuq mfsUm dy ipafry hn,pr eynHF suxn vflf aqy ienHF dy mn qwk phuMcx vflf koeI nhIN.mYN bwicaF dy bhuq nyVy ho igaf.awj vI ijs Gr ivwc bwcy nf hox myrf AuwQy idl nhIN lwgdf.bwcy Boly Bfly huMdy hn AunHF ivwc vwizaF vFgUM ÈYqfngI sfVf jF Pryb nhIN huMdf.AunHf df mn swcf huMdf hY AunHF ivwc ivcr ky mYnUM KuÈI imldI hY.
? nIloN sfihb bhuqy lok quhfnUM bwicaF dy gfiek dy qOr qy hI jfxdy hn.pr mYnUM pqf hY ik qusIN bhuq cMgy mono-aYktr hoN.styj nfl jF nftkF nfl qusIN bhuq dyr juVy rhy hoN.kI awj qusIN adfkfrI nfl ajy vI sbMDq hoN.jF Aus Kyqr ivwc qusIN ikMnf ku kMm kIqf?
--- myjr ijhVf bwicaF df kMm hY eyhdy ivwc nftk vI hY sMgIq vI qy mono-aYkitMg vI.ieh sfrIaF klfvF df sumyl hY.jdoN mYN bwicaF df gIq gfAuNdf hF 'sON jf bwbUaf mfxo ibwlI afeI hY' qF Auhdy 'c bwicaF dIaF keI qrHF dIaF avfËF hn qy mYN iesdI pyÈkfrI smyN afvfË aqy sQfn bdldf hF kdy bwcf kdI dfdI aqy kdI koeI bfhroN afeI afvfË.ies qrHF mYN nftk, mono-aYkitMg, sMgIq aqy gfiekI nUM iekwiTaF pyÈ krdf hF.styj dIaF AunHF klfvF nUM mYN Cwizaf nhIN blik bwicaF dy Kyqr ivwc iesqymfl kr irhf hF.
? kmljIq jI jdoN qusI bwicaF dI gfiekI vl afey qF ieh iblkuwl nvyklf kMm sI.ijQy qusIN ies nUM sQfpq krn leI byhwd sMGrÈ kIqf AuQy hor vI bhuq sfrIaF qklIPF shIaF.Pyr iewk smF afieaf jdoN quhfzI pCfx bx geI jF lokF ny quhfnUM pRvfn kr ilaf.Pyr qusIN ikvyN mihsUs kIqf?afpxy sMGrÈ bfry kuwJ dwsoN.ik ipMz nIloN qoN ÈurU kr ky qusIN ikQy qwk phuMcy?
--- jdoN mYN ÈurU kIqf,rIhrslF afrMBIaF qF afpxy ipMz nfl vgdI nihr srihMd dy sMGxy Auwcy sPYidaF ivwc jfky qrHF qrHF dIaF afvfËF kwZdf qF lok socdy kulvMq df muMzf Èfied pfgl ho igaf hY.pVHfeI ny Ausdf idmfg cwk idwqf hY.mYnUM koeI sfriQk huMgfrf nf imilaf.pr myry mn dI afvfË sI ik mYN jo kr irhf hF TIk kr irhf hF.mYN AudoN isrP afpxf sroqf afp sI.Pyr mYN styjF qy jf ky afpxI pyÈkfrI ÈurU kIqI ipMzf ivwc jf ky.myrIaF afeItmF muwk jFdIaF pr lokF dy suxn dI BuwK nF imtdI.keI lok afKdy "Xfr qUM isafxf ibafxf hoky ieh juafkF ijihaF dIaF vfjF ijhIaF kwZdf iPrdf eyN,eyhdy 'coN qYnUM kI iml jfvygf?mYN kihMdf koeI nF Brfvo iksy nUM qF ieh kMm krnf hI pYxf hY.lok afKdy qUM BuwKf mrygf.aijhI DMn DMn df kIm krygF ijs coN Dn nhIN imldf.pr mYN sfrF kuwJ awKoN proKy kr ky,mn dIaF sfrIaF BfvnfvF mfr ky afpxI pUrI ÈkqI ies pfsy lf idwqI.afpxf mfl afp mMzI ivwc lY ik igaf.mYnUM afs sI ik myrI imhnq df muwl jrUr pvygf.Pyr mYN awgy awgy vDdf irhf qy nvyN nvyN rfh Kuwldy gey.pihlF iekwlf gfAuNdf sI Pyr bwicaF nUM vI nfl qor ilaf.hux Auh myrI pyÈkfrI mhwqv pUrn aMg bx gey hn.mYN ijwQy vI jFdf afm bwcy myry gIq gfAuNdy iPrdy hn.jo ik myry leI vwzI pRfpqI hY.bfkI ikwQy qwk phuMicaF ieh quhfnUM pqf hI hY.
? kmljIq jI quhfzy ihwsy jo pRiswDI afeI hY ieh hr iksy dy ihwsy nhIN afAuNdI.qusIN ijwQy vI afpxf pRogRfm pyÈ krn jFdy hoN hr koeI afKdf hY ik aOh kmljIq af igaf.bwicaF nUM cfa cV jFdf hY.Auh quhfnU mfxo ibwlI aMkl kihMdy hn qy quhfzy gIq gfAuNdy hn.sON jf bwbUaf vflf gIq hr bwcy jF vwzy dI Ëubfn qy hY.ies gIq nUM eynI pRiswDI ikvyN imlI?kI ieh pihlF typ qy afieaf sI jF dUrdrÈn qy?
--- 1986 ivwc pihlF mYN ieh gIq dUrdrÈn jlMDr qoN pyÈ kIqf jdoN AuwQy aimqoj huMdy sI,hrjIq sI,BMzfrI sfihb sn jo ik cMgI tIm sI.inrdyÈk suirMdr ÈrmF ny mYnUM iksy styj pRogRfm qy dyiKaf sI AunF ny mYnUM ikhf ik kmljIq qUM iewk idn dUrdrÈn af.jdoN mYN igaf qF AunHF ny rIkfrizMg kr leI qy bhuq vDIaf qrIky nfl pyÈ kIqf.ies nfl myrf dfierf bhuq vD igaf.pihlF mYN styjF rfhIN ipMz ipMz phuMcdf irhf sI qy Pyr dUrdrÈn ny mYnUM Gr Gr phuMcf idwqf.dUsrf mYN afp hr iksy leI bgYr nKry qoN gfieaf Bfvy iksy dosq ny ikhf BfvyN bwcy ny mYN Joly coN zPlI kwZ ky gfAux lwgdf.lokF ny mYnUM bhuq ipafr idwqf BfvyN keI klfkfr afKdy ik qUM mÈhUr klfkfr hYN hr iksy dy khy qy nF gfieaf kr.pr mYN ieh nKry nhIN kr skdf.
? kmljIq jI quhfzy hrmnipafry hox df kfrn quhfzy aMdr iewk vDIaf iensfn df hoxf vI iesy krky qusIN hMkfr qoN bcy rhy.keI klfkfr qF iewk awDI typ-irkfrz krvf ky hI lokF nfl gwl krnI Cwz idMdy hn.qy afpxy afp nUM bhuq vwzy ryzIAy tI vI afritst dwsdy hn.pr qusIN iekwly jlMDr tI vI qoN hI nhIN blik dUrdrÈn idwlI dy nYÈnl pRogRfmF ivwc vI idKfey jFdy rhy.ijwQy cMgy qoN cMgy klfkfr vI nhIN phuMc sky ik iewky smyN sfry Bfrq ivwc tYlIkfst hoey hox.idwlI dUrdrÈn qwk qusIN ikvyN phuMcy?
--- AunHF ny mYnUM ikqy suixaf hoAU AunHF myry Gr tYlIgRfm ByjI ik mYN afky pRogRfm dyvF.mYnUM XkIn ijhf nf afvy.mYN AuQy phuMicaf qF Auh bhuq vDIa qrIky nfl pyÈ afey.AuQy dIdI sIqf nMdf jI hn Auh bhuq Auwz ky imly ik kmljIq asIN qF qYnUM bhuq dyr qoN lwB rhy hF hux jfky qyrf pqf gurÈrn kOr jI qoN ilaf hY.AuQy afpxI pMjfbI kuVI kMm krdI hY mYN jo pMjfb ivwc jF sfihq akfzmI idwlI ivwc pRogRfm pyÈ kIqy sn Aus dI irkfrizMg Aus ny idKfeI hoAU.mYN jdoN stuzIAu ivwc irkfrizMg krvf ky bfhr inwkilaf qF idwlI dUrdrÈn qF sfrf stfP mYnUM suxn leI iekwTf ho igaf.AuQy Bfrq dy kihMdy khfAuNdy klfkfr jFdy hn pr jo mfx mYnUM imilaf Aus nUM vyK ky myrf mn Br afieaf.jo ik myry leI vwzI pRfpqI sI.
? kmljIq Aus smyN quhfzI mÈhUr typ sON jf bwbUaf crnjIq afhUjf dy sMgIq hyT afeI.ahUjf sfihb qwk phuMc krn leI bVy vwzy afritst nwk rgVdy vyKy hn.jF Auh sO Aucyc krdy hn.pr quhfnUM AunHf bgYr iksy Aucyc qoN irkfrz kIqf.irkfrz hI nhIN kIqf afzIAy typ ivwc myrI jfxkfrI vI idwqI qy lok hYrfn rih gey aijhf ikvyN vfpiraf?
--- BFvyN koeI kuJ khI jfvy jdoN mYN crnjIq Bfa jI kol phuMicaf qF mYnUM surF df koeI igafn nhIN sI.mYnUM Auh kihMdy kmljIq ikhVI sur ivwc gfvyNgf? mYN ikhf Bfa jI mYnUM nhIN pqf ieh qusIN dyKo mYN ikhVI sur ivwc gfAuNdf hF.Bfa jI ny mYnUM bhuq ipafr idwqf rIhrslF krvfeIaF do idnF ivwc asIN typ iqafr kr leI.AunHF ny mYnUM eynF ipafr idwqf.kumYNtrI vI afp kIqI myry leI ieh vI bhuq vwzI pRfpqI sI.AunHF myrf smF bhuq vDIaf lMiGaf eynf vwzf sMgIq smrft mYnUM kYist klcr ivwc ies qrHF jfx pCfx nfl lY ky jfvy ieh koeI CotI gwl nhIN sI.
? kmljIq jI hux qwk quhfzIaF ikMnIaF kYistF af cuwkIaF hn?qy ienF nUM ikho ijhf huMgfrf imilaf hY?
--- hux qwk myrIaF cfr typF afeIaF hn.pihlI sI 'sO jf bwbUaf',dUjI hfQI nfnikaF nUM cwilaf,qIjI 'mqfÈf vyiKaf qy cOQI 'afkf bfkf icVI cVfkf' jo zwbvflI hoey agn kFz dy bwicaF nUM smRpq hY.bfkI rhI huMgfry dI gwl ieh koeI ibjns puafieMt qoN aijhf grmf grm mfl qF hY nhIN jo DVf DV ivk jFdf.aijhf mYN cfhuMdf vI nhIN.myry sroqy afm nhIN hn bwcy hn jF bwicaF nUM ipafr krn vfly lok hn.bwcy myry gIq suxdy bhuq hn pr dukfnF afp KrId nhIN skdy.Auh mfipaF dI jyb qy inrBr hn.qy awgoN mfipaF dI ijMmyvfrI hY ik bwcy dy mn dI iewCf ikvyN pUrI krdy hn.eynHF gIqF nUM bhuq cMgf huMgfrf imilaf hY.
? kmljIq qusIN jo gIq ilKy ny BfvyN ieh bwicaF leI ny pr iehnF ivwc vwizaF leI vI koeI sunyhf huMdf hY.
--- qF hI qF Auh typF KrId ky suxdy ny.vwizaF ny myry ieh gIq bhuq psMd kIqy ijvyN icVIaF bfblf vy icVIaF,jdoN pI lYNdy ny Èrfb zYzI jF ikwQy geIaF mF sfzy ihwsy dIaF lorIaF.ienHF ivwc bwicaF dIaF BfvnfvF nUM lY ky vwizaF nfl vI gwl kIqI geI hY.ik muMzy kuVIaF df Prk ikAuN rwiKaf jFdf hY.ieh vwizaF leI vI gIq hn.
? kmljIq jI kI qusIN bcpn ivwc vI aijhy hI iKafl rwKdy sI.qusIN AudoN lY ky hux qwk ikMnIaF ku sMsQfvF nfl juVy rhy.Bfv jdoN quhfnU ieh jfg lwigaf AudoN qoN gwl kro.
--- ijvyN mYN pihlF dwisaf hY ik bfpU jI Èfoer sn qy cfcf jgdIÈ nIloN jI khfxIkfr sn. AunHF ny ijwQy sucyq qOr qy mYnUM sfihq nfl joiVaf AuQy myrI mF ny mYnUM acyq qOr iqafr kIqf.Pyr gurpfl ilwt jI vloN nftk klf kyNdr ibjlIpur bxfieaf igaf.Aus nfl mYN styj qy kfPI kMm kIqf.ies qrHF gwl awgy qurdI geI qy srkl bxdf igaf.jdoN Aus nftk mMzlI dy sfry mYNbr afpxy kMmF kfrF ivwc ruJy hox krky Auh tIm ibKr geI qy mYN iekwlf rih igaf.Pyr mYN afpxI klf nUM brkrfr rwKx leI afpxy qOr qy kMm krnf ÈurU kIqf.Pyr pRogrfmF qy mYN mono-aYkitMg krn jfx lwigaf.rmf rqn jI ny mYnUM bhuq hOslf idwqf.asIN do do sO bwicaF dy kfPly lY ky qurdy rhy ipMz ipMz Èihr Èihr.
? kmljIq jI quhfzy ividak adfiraF ny jF quhfzy aiDafpk sihbfnF ny vI quhfzI klf nUM inKfrn ivwc Xogdfn pfieaf hoAU?
--- hF jI ,myry pihly aiDafpk qF myry bfpU jI hI sn ijnHF ny hr pwDr qy mYnUM AuqÈfihq kIqf.Auh hIrF ipMz skUl ivwc pVHfAuNdy sn.mYnUM afpxy nfl skUl lY jFdy koeI gIq iqafr krvf ky AuQy gvfAuNdy.myry kIqy hoey iksy vI kMm dI pRsMÈF krdy ijs nfl mYnUM hOslf imldf.afpxy qOr qy mYnU pihlF pihl styj qoN bhuq zr lwgdf sI.iewk vfr mYnUM myry skUl 'Gulfl' ivwc mYnUM Dwky nfl styj qy cVHf idwqf igaf AuQy jo afeItm mYN pyÈ kIqI Aus nUM sux ky sfry bhuq AuwcI AuwcI hsx lwgy.Pyr mflvf kflj bONdlI smrflf ivwc jf ky myrI klf ivwc bhuq inKfr afieaf.AuQy sfry aiDafpk bhuq ipafr krdy sn.ajy qwk vI Auwz ky imldy ny.mYN AuQy styj qy afpxy sfry aiDafpkF dIaF rIsF lfAuNdf qy KuÈ huMdy hflfik myry mn ivwc zr huMdf ik ikqy koeI burf nf mnf jfvy.pr AunHF ny mYnUM iJVkx dI bjfey mYnUM hOslf idwqf.AuwQoN dy pRO: buwDIrfjf jdoN luiDafxy ipRMsIpl bx ky afey qF iewk idn mYN bgYr dwsy AunHF dy iksy smfgm qy cilaf igaf qF mYnUM vyK AunHF nUM bhuq cfa cV igaf AunHF sfrf smfgm rok ky myrI jfx pCfx krvfeI aqy dwisaf ik kmljIq jo ik myrf bhuq ajIË hY awj sfiraF nUM myrI rIs lf ky ivKfvygf.myry aiDafpkF ny mYnUM byhwd ipafr idwqf qy ajy vI idMdy ny.
? kmljIq jI qusIN iewk klfkfr dy qOr qy ivcrn dy nfl nfl nOkrI vI krdy hoN.quhfnUM afpxy pRogrfm dyx leI bhuqf smF kMm qoN gYrhfjr vI rihxf pYNdf hY.kI quhfnUM koeI muÈkl pyÈ nhIN afAuNdI jF Pyr quhfzy mihkmy vfilaF nUM quhfzy qy mfx hY ik Auh koeI puwC igwC nhIN krdy.
--- myjr mYN tYlIkfm ivwc nOkrI krdf hF.ajy mYN isrP afpxI klf dy isr qy nhIN rih skdf.myry mihkmyN nUM myry bfry pqf hY BFvy myrI klf df AunHF nUM koeI Pfiedf nhIN AunHF qF Auh kMm cfhIdf hY ijs leI AunHF ny mYnUM rwiKaf hY.pr Auh myry klf pwK ivwc roVf nhIN bxdy.mYN vI afpxy mihkmyN dy PMkÈnF ivwc ibnF nFgf pUry AuqÈfh nfl phuMcdf hF.mihkmy vfilaf nUM vI afpxy klfkfr krmcfrIaF qy mfx krnf cfhIdf hY.ies nfl mihkmy df vI mfx vDdf hY qy klfkfr nUM vI hOslf imldf hY.
? kmljIq jI kuwJ smF pihlF quhfnUM pRO: mohx isMG myly qy snmfinq kIqf igaf sI qF qusIN ikvyN mihsUs kIqf? ies qoN ielfvf quhfnUM hor vI snmfn imly?
--- pRO: mohx isMG myly qy myry snmfn bfry hoeI acfnk anfAUNsmYNt ny mYnUM vI hYrfn kr idwqf sI ikAuNik mYnUM aijhI koeI afs nhIN sI.pr AunHF mYnUM iÈv kumfr btflvI aYvfrz nfl snmfinq kIqf.ies qoN ielfvf sfihq sBf lFbVF ny qRlocn BftIaf aYvfrz idwqf,sfihq sBf mlyrkotlf ny sMq rfm AudfsI purskfr idwqf qy sfrMg cMzIgVH vloN sfihq rqn purskfr idwqf igaf.ies qrHF hor vI ienfm snmfn imldy rhy jy nF vI imldy Pyr vI mYN qF ies Kyqr ivwc kMm krdy rihxf sI.ienHF huMgfira nfl mYnUM hOslf jrUr imilaf hY".
? quhfzI klf nUM pRPuwlq krn leI aÉbfrf rsfilaF ny vI sihXog idwqf hoAU?
--- bhuq. kuwJ ny qF ivsyÈ aMk vI kwZy.ijvyN 'axU' aqy 'krUMblf' mYgËInF ny.ienHF ivwc ijwQy hor lokF ny myry bfry iliKaf mYN vI afpxy bfry,afpxy bcpn bfry jF rcn-pRikiraf bfry Kuwl ky iliKaf.
? quhfzf iliKaf kuwJ ikqfbI rUp ivwc vI Cipaf hoAU?
--- hF jI myry gIqF dI pihlI ikqfb sI 'gfAu bwicAu' jo jnmyjf jOhl jI vloN iqafr kIqI geI sI.tYkst buwk borz cMzIgVH vloN myrIaF ikqfbF 'KMBF dI Prfk' aqy 'tOPIaF df mkfn' iqafr kIqIaF geIaF.bfkI 'aMbr qfry' aqy 'nF nI nfnI' myrIaF sFJIaF pusqkF CpIaF.
? nIloN sfihb jo bwicaf leI qusIN sfihq iliKaf kI Auh bwicaf dy islybs ivwc vI lwigaf jF Auh bwicaF qwk ikvyN phuMcdf hY?
--- Auh pMjfb ivwc qF islybs ivwc nhIN pr iMGfpur ivwc 'iswK aYËUkysn PfAUNzyÈn vloN irrDfirq islybs df ihwsf jrUr bixaf hoieaf hY. mYN ijwQy vI jfvF afpxf kMm nfl lY ky jfeIdf hY.jo bwcy pVHnf cfhux AunHF nUM ieh pVHn leI idwqf jFdf hY jF phuMcfieaf jFdf hY.
? awj kwl aÉbfrF ivwc bfl-sfihq dy nF hyT kfPI kuwJ Cp irhf hY.bhuqy bwicaf leI nhIN sgoN afpxy nF leI ilKdy hn.keI vfrI qF Aus df pwDr vwizaf vflf huMdf hY.pr qusIN aijhf nhIN krdy AunHF dI qoqlI avsQf nUM pRgftfAuNdy hoN.vwKo vwKry pwDr dy aDfr qy iewko smyN Cy swq iksm dIaF afvfËF kwZ ky AunHF dI hU-b-hU qsvIr pyÈ krdy hoN.ieh sB kfsy leI quhfnUM bhuq imhnq krnI pYNdI hoAU.
--- ieh lMby irafË nfl hI sfrf kuwJ aFAudf hY.mYN afpxy afly duafly nUM GoKdf hF qy sihjy hI rcnf krdf hF.avfËF kwZx leI mYnUM pfgl px dI hwd qwk irafË krnf ipaf hY.mYN imhnq ivwc XkIn rwKdf hF.pMjfb ivwc bfl- sfihq qy kfPI kMm ho irhf hY.
? kmljIq jI quhfzy klf pwK ny quhfzy pirvfrk jIvn nUM vI pRBfvq kIqf hoAU?
--- Kfs nhIN sfry pirvfr vloN mYnUM bhuq sihXog imldf irhf.hF ies pfsy ruwiJaf hox kfrn mYN ivafh leI jrUr lyt ho igaf sI.dsMbr 98 ivwc myrf ivafh ho igaf hY.Aus qoN bfad ajy pihlI vfr kYnyzf afieaf hF.
? kmljIq jI hor qusIN bwicaF nUM kI sMdyÈ dyxf cfhoNgy?
--- myrf qF bwicaf leI snyh hY jo mYN afpxy gIqF aqy pRogrfmF rfhIN inBfAuNdf rhFgf.
? kmljIq jI qusIN bwicaF leI bVI vwzI dyx idwqI hY.awj dyÈ ibdyÈ jf ky qusIN AunHF nUM afpxI bolI aqy swiBafcfr nfl joV rhy hoN.iesy islsly ivwc qusIN torFto vI afey hoN.asI ijwQy ies gwlbfq leI quhfzf DMnvfd krdy hF.AuQy torFto phuMcx qy inwGf suafgq krdy hF.
--- myjr mYN quhfzf, Kfs krky kYn iswK vfilaF df,bwicaF df aqy AunHF df mfipaF df aqI DMnvfdI hF ijnHF krky mYN eyQoN nfl juV ky afpxI klf df pRdrÈn kr sikaf.AumId krdf hF qusIN bwicaf nUM iesy qrHF klf,bolI aqy swiBafcfr nfl joVIN rwKoNgy.myry vloN sfiraF df DMnvfd.
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